Maulana Tariq Jamil forceful attempt for Bayan Mansehra Ijtema 2025

A recent Audio from Maulana Tariq Jamil was recently spread in social media expresssing his dissatisfaction not being allowed to give Bayan during the Mansehra Ijtema in Pakistan.

Maulana Tariq Jamil Audio not happy since he was not able to give Bayan in Mansehra Ijtema

Audio (URDU)

Translation:

Assalamualaykum. I apologise, for this lengthy talk, but I want to remind you all.

All of you sitting here today—Batla Sahib, Dr. Saleem, Nadeem Ashraf, Iftikhar, and all the others—there was a time during the Quraish-e-Zaban era when you couldn’t even pass through here. You wouldn’t have dared to cross this place. If a decent utensil was placed in front of you, and if you even heard that Zia-ul-Haq was coming, you’d hide the utensil fearing Khwaja Zia might see it.

Have you forgotten who brought you people to this stage?

It was because of me that you all found a seat among these respected gatherings. Even animals don’t forget favours, yet you people have crossed these limits.

Had I not stood up that day, you all would still be sitting in the corner. I fought the battle and got you out, I closed the paths they were coming from. It was I who made it possible for you to sit in those gatherings.

Yet (today) you’ve made me your enemy. You set up slanders and obstacles. Have some shame, have some decency!

I’m not speaking to you all, Maulvi Khurshid; I’m speaking to them—like Zia-ul-Haq. You people should be ashamed. Is this what you call Tabligh?

In 2018, Maulana Hasan Sahib approved me to deliver a Bayan. It was decided. Then Maulvi Zia-ul-Haq said, “My opinion is that Maulana Tariq Jamil should not speak, he may talk to the guests.”

That fool didn’t even know how to give an opinion. An opinion (in Tabligh) is to suggest who should speak, not who shouldn’t speak.

Then his uncle grabbed a stick and went from person to person demanding my name be removed from the schedule. Why? Because Fazlur Rahman was upset.

Habib-ul-Haq Sahib also became very furious—he even declared me a Murtad! And the same was true for others too. These fools don’t realise that I was the sole reason they had a seat at that Mashwara—and now they treat me with such vulgarity and indecency.

I’m not saying this out of ego. But this whole group has deviated, and I believe Allah will remove them from this path.

In the Mashwara, Maulvi Habib-ur-Rahman took my name, and Maulvi Batla humiliated him instantly. I was present. These people don’t even know the sacred rules of Mashwara.

So brothers, all of you—repent. Improve your manners, improve your approach. End this groupism.

You have created a new history—blocking all four doors, placing guards on all four roads. Shame on you!

Even after knowing what was happening, you went ahead with the decision. I swear by Allah, I never wanted this. My 54-year history (in Tabligh) is witness that I never took such steps.

But this internal fire has burned the house down. You people are the ones lighting the fire of this peaceful place.

Assalamualaykum again.

Dr. Nadeem Ashraf—I had also messaged Maulvi Khurshid, so let me say this too: The way you all have deteriorated the moral fabric of this work and brought down the mission of Tabligh—when I saw what was happening in Mansehra, it reminded me of what Maulana Yusuf once said: “No one else will destroy this work—only its own people will.”

First came Raja Afsar’s group—Allah cleared them out. Then came the Qureshis—Allah cleared them out too. Now it’s your group.

The way your affairs are running in Raiwind—fix them. May Allah keep you all steadfast. But if you continue like this, be prepared. Allah’s unseen system will remove you too.

This is a moral degradation. Maulvi Khurshid is much younger than me. Maulvi Zahir-ul-Haq is also younger than me. Yet do you have no sense of respect for your elders?

Allah gave me birth in a noble family. And in the religious world too, no one has been given as much fame as I have.

Yet you people became thugs against me—blocking roads, digging pits, tearing down bridges.

If this is Tabligh, then its funeral has been prayed. May Allah protect you, and keep you united, but if this is your behaviour, the time of downfall is near.

Assalamualaykum again.

Let me remind you again—in 2018 you brought a new Bat Sahib, saying “You are not to be part of the Mashwara.” What kind of Tabligh is this?

I’ve never seen this in the Qur’an, in Hadith, in the Seerah, nor from Maulana Inaamul Hasan Sahib, nor from Maulana Abdul-Aziz, nor from Maulana Yusuf, nor Maulana Ilyas. This is your own invented Tabligh.

You remember clearly, the next gathering, you brought 10 people with you: Dr. Nadeem Sahib, Dr. Saleem Sahib, Dr. Roohullah Sahib, Maulvi Iftikhar, Maulvi Zia-ul-Haq, Maulvi Khurshid, Chaudhry Rafiq Sahib, Naeem Shah Sahib, Hashmat Sahib—there was one more. (I forgot but) I counted ten.

(At that tiem) You all came to my living room and said, “You are not to be part of the Mashwara.”

Are you blind to reason (this is outrageous)? Is this what you call Tabligh?

I’ve never demanded that I must speak, nor have I said don’t let me speak.

Maulana Hasan Sahib took my name—it was confirmed. Then you know in the next message what Maulvi Habib-ul-Haq and Zia-ul-Haq did.

Is this what you call Tabligh?

Maulvi Atiq told me himself that “Adeeb Musharraf says Tariq Jamil’s name should not be taken in Mashwara.”

Maulvi Sohail even held a meeting with the Ulema to instruct them if Maulana Tariq Jamil’s name comes up, you all must stand and protest.

Yet when Maulana Hasan suggested my name, no one dared to stand. If someone else had taken it, maybe they would have.

Even my own students came and told me what happened.

And you used Umar Farooq to block the visas of Maulvi Saeed’s Jamaats?

Is this Tabligh?

You people neither understand religion, nor the Qur’an, nor the Seerah. What are you doing sitting here?

You have hurt me deeply.

Allah used me to spread this message to the six continents of the world. Outside Raiwind, no one even knows who you are.

Batla Sahib was speaking in Karachi, and the crowd was asking, “Who is this man speaking?”

You think of people as sheep to be herded.

I never asked to be the speaker. But the way your morals have declined—my old wounds had scabbed, but your filth has torn them open again. This will not end well.

Soon, Allah’s unseen hand will move. By Allah, I never conspire. But Allah’s unseen system will toss you out, like it tossed the Qureshis.

You have neither shame nor decency.

You drew a line—Tariq Jamil on one side, and you on the other.

You say my sons are making money? Fear Allah! What kind of talk is this?

You don’t even understand the ranks. I’ve dedicated my life. Since 18, I’ve been on this path. Now I’m 72. You wretched people—can’t you see?

Allah brought me here from a great family, through immense sacrifice—and you treat me like a plaything?

You put those who don’t even know how to speak in charge. The one Allah blessed, you try to cut down.

When Abdul Haq Sahib used to read the revelations of Kashf, where were your principles then?

You’ve made Yusuf Khurshid the leader of Rawalpindi—but he was always Maulvi Saad’s ally.

All of this is just for me. I will step aside quietly, visit the local masjid, attend the Thursday gathering, go for ghash (local preaching). But I will never leave Tabligh—not even at death’s door.

I’m calling you to shame—for your own good. Your hearts are filled with hypocrisy. You locked Raiwind, fearing that if I return, things will shift.

Anyway, I am deeply hurt. You know how many years we’ve been together—I never spoke like this before.

You’ve pushed me to the edge. But your own end is near, too. If you continue with this indecency and hypocrisy, you too will fall.

Maulvi Batla is the Amir now? Who made him Amir? Who decided that?

A man who can’t tolerate a second of anger—how can he be Amir?

And you all keep him in charge?

I will spread this message around the world.

Peace and blessings of Allah be upon you.

Maulvi Khurshid, this message is not specifically for you—just let those for whom it’s meant hear it.

Lastly, in 2000, Maulvi Arshad’s group came, and Raja Afsar made me a target. Then Raiwind’s system collapsed. Allah removed them.

Then the Qureshi group came—and Allah removed them too.

Now your group has surpassed both in foolishness.

So prepare yourselves—your time is coming.

No one can stop Allah’s decree.

I pray for you, you are dear friends, may Allah give you steadfastness.

But the pile of foolishness and incompetence you’ve built surpasses all.

You’re digging your own graves—and the fall is near.

Maulana Tariq Jamil’s behaviour: Eye Witness testimony of what really happened

One of the senior elders in Mansehra explained in Audio what really happened during the Mansehra Ijtema.

His testimoney audio (URDU)

Translation

Assalamualaikum

When the Mansehra Ijtema began, news also came that Maulana Tariq Jameel had arrived. He had indeed come, but not according to the usual system or arrangement—not through Mashwara or arrangment of the Raiwind elders. He came on his own terms. He also gave a speech at Hazara University and went to visit Maulana Ghaus Azarvi as well.

When the day of Mashwara came and matters of the Ijtema were being decided, Maulana Khurshid Sahib, Ibadullah Sahib, Babar Javed Sahib, Hashmat Sahib, and Saeed Sahib, along with maybe two or three others from Raiwind, attended the mashwara. All matters were finalized in the meeting. Maulana Tariq Jameel was also present, and all activities were settled according to the standard procedure.

My own peer, who is also the Ameer of the Shura of Area 18—from Haripur to Gilgit, was present and confirmed this. He said that all matters were agreed upon, and no one even mentioned Maulana Tariq Jameel’s name in any duty or role. Not a single person did.

Then, Maulana Tariq Jameel forcefully snatched the mic from Maulana Khurshid Sahib and started speaking. He said things like:

“Allah used me across continents,”

“This Maulana Khurshid—he was a child, I guided him with my finger,”

“And this Zia-ul-Haq who’s sitting here—I taught him book sin Arabic word by word.”

He continued:

“I did this work, I was behind all this, and now people want me. On social media, it’s spreading that my talk will happen after Zuhr. So I will speak after Zuhr tomorrow—no matter what.”

Then, as he got up, he said many more things—some of them sounding quite arrogant. I don’t want to say outright that it was pride or ego, because his staunch supporters might get upset—but that was the overall tone.

He also said:

“This Shura is full of hypocrites—all of them! Every Shura has hypocrites!”

Then, as he started leaving, he threw down the mic, saying: “I will speak tomorrow.”

Then he said, “No, I won’t.”

Then smiled and said, “If I wanted, I could speak forcefully. But now, I am fearful (of Allah)”

He left with a smirk.

Later, the elders found out that he had independently planned a talk. Then, Maulana Asif Sahib, in Mashwara with others, including my peer and myself, sent a delegation. My peer asked Maulana Fazl-e-Hadi, famously known as Shah Sahib of Allai, what had happened.

He said:

“Three scholars and a senior Tablighi elder went to meet him after Fajr. He was staying at the mansion of a wealthy man—some political figure named Nawaz Khan. When we arrived, his assistant recognized me—he used to study with my son.”

We said: “We want to meet Maulana.”

He asked: “Why?”

We replied: “The Shura has sent us to tell him not to deliver a Bayan, as decided in Mashwara. And if he wants to speak, he must contact Raiwind and schedule it officially.”

Maulana Tariq Jamil wanted to give a Bayan no matter what

Maulana Tariq Jameel sent word from inside: “I will speak—no matter what.”

Then some local political leaders like Ishaq Muhammad Khan and other MNAs/MPAs from Mansehra also came and requested him not to speak. This seemed to soften his stance.

But then, his students from Jamia Hasnain came and sat right in front of the stage, along with some rough types from PTI (Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf)—you know, the types we can’t even describe respectfully.

Then, a senior scholar from the central markaz, possibly the branch administrator, came to where the elders of all Markaz were sitting—including myself—and informed us:

“They are going to push through and come up anyway.”

So naturally, everyone became angry and defensive, feeling that this went against our ethos.

Yes, we respect him (Maulana Tariq Jamil)—but this was completely against our Tablighi temperament. Open support of political parties, appearing on mainstream media like celebrities—this goes against our principles.

Everyone rose. An internal mashwara was held again. The decision was made not to allow him.

Security duties were assigned. Our vehicle was relatively large (a Suzuki). One brother said, “Park your car this way,”—so we did. Another car blocked from the other side. We also blocked roads leading into the gathering grounds.

Maulana Tariq Jamil’s car could not enter the Ijtema main area

During the prayer, we heard sirens from some of his cars. Later, I asked a trusted companion, and he confirmed:

“They turned him away from the road itself.”

That’s how he (Maulana Tariq Jamil) was forcibly sent back.

Right before the prayer, Maulana Ibadullah Sahib was on the mimbar (pulpit), and Maulana Zia-ul-Haq Sahib was gently advising the crowd not to push forward, to sit in their places. Maulana Ibadullah would call out to any individual who stood up:

“Sit him down, sit him down.”

Maulana Zia-ul-Haq spoke kindly:

“This is a gathering of guidance. May Allah make it a means of spreading guidance.”

*In short, Maulana Tariq Jameel lost whatever remaining respect or honour he had among the Raiwind elders and the Tablighi Jamaat community.

All those involved—whether in four-month jamaats or seven-month jamaats, or among the Shura—expressed deep disappointment, even anger. Even someone like me, a simple-hearted faqir, found it very upsetting.

That was the full report.

After that, Maulana Tariq Jamil went to Islamabad and reportedly said: “This is a region of hypocrites. I will never return here again.”

If Maulana had forcibly climbed the mimbar that day, it would have been a betrayal—not just of our leadership, but of Hazrat Maulana Ilyas (RA) and Haji Abdul Wahhab Sahib’s legacy and sacrifices.

That pulpit wasn’t meant to be climbed in that way—it would’ve been a betrayal of Tabligh itself.

May Allah protect us all, keep us safe from arrogance, and grant us the ability to follow the mashwara system. May we all continue in accordance with the temperament of our elders, which is our source of well-being. Just like the Sipah Sahaba lost their way when they lost their temperament, so too will we if we stray from the ways laid down by our elders.

Even though Maulana Tariq Jameel spoke at length, Maulana Khurshid Sahib and the other elders stayed completely silent. They gave no reply. But naturally, they must be reflecting now—what to do going forward?

That is the complete report.

Wassalam.

Interview with a Raiwind Affiliate

A Raiwind Affiliate was interviewed by telling the real reason behind Maulana Tariq Jamil’s incident.

Youtube video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19VzcI8H3_c

Translation:

Here is the full English translation of the conversation:

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Raiwind Affiliate:
Maulana Tariq Jamil Sahib basically went to the Mansehra gathering for his speech, but his speech was not scheduled during the consultation session. Because of this, the rumour spread that Maulana Tariq Jamil Sahib was not allowed to speak. The real issue is that the elders of the Raiwind Shura have a policy that Maulana Tariq Jamil Sahib should work in Tabligh away from media.

Interviewer:
There are rumours circulating on social media and mainstream media that Maulana Tariq Jamil has been expelled from the Tablighi Jamaat and his speeches have been banned. To uncover the truth, we are speaking with Maulana Sahib’s close associate and a key member of the Tablighi Jamaat, Usman Baig Sahib, to learn the actual facts.

Raiwind Affiliate:
Maulana Tariq Jamil Sahib has not been expelled from the Tablighi Jamaat, and Tablighi Jamaat is not a kind of organisation where people are formally recruited or expelled. Whoever can give time, gives time. This term being used on social media is just hype creation.

Interviewer:
But his speeches have been banned, right?

Raiwind Affiliate:
Look, a ban only applies in the sense that if someone doesn’t work within the framework of the policies set by Raiwind, then their speech won’t be scheduled during the consultation session. Whether it’s Maulana Tariq Jamil Sahib or any other Shura member of Tablighi Jamaat — if a speech isn’t scheduled, they won’t be allowed to deliver it. No one will be forced either.

Interviewer:
What are the reasons or developments that led to Maulana Sahib facing this restriction?

Raiwind Affiliate:
There is no formal ban on Maulana Tariq Jamil Sahib’s speeches. Just yesterday, he delivered a speech in a mosque here in Lahore, attended by a huge crowd. The situation with Maulana Sahib is that this issue arose from a private gathering, a personal matter, but due to digital exposure, it was highly publicised. Just like in any organisation, internal disagreements happen — even in the time of the Companions. This is a difference of opinion in a consultation.

Maulana Tariq Jamil Sahib went to the Mansehra gathering intending to give a speech, particularly at the university level. A general assumption formed among the crowd that since he came to the university, he would also speak at the Tablighi gathering. Maulana Sahib has a sincere desire — he longs for people to be guided through his speech. So, he humbly presented himself as an ordinary person at the gathering and in front of the Shura, as everyone else does in meetings.

All the Shura members were present, and Maulana Tariq Jamil Sahib was there too. But his speech was not scheduled in the consultation. However, since word had spread widely that he would speak, and a large crowd had gathered, he made a personal request to speak. But the atmosphere became tense, and the rumour spread that he was not allowed to speak. In reality, the issue was that the speech was not scheduled — not that he was forbidden.

Then, unfortunately, as in every field, there are people who like to pull others down. Some individuals exaggerated the situation and tried to defame Maulana Sahib. But you know that these issues have come up before, and in the future too, Allah will protect Maulana Sahib, the Tablighi Jamaat, and the entire Muslim world from any harm.

Interviewer:
Do you think there are people within the Tablighi Centre who disagree with Maulana Sahib? Where is the gap that’s causing these issues?

Raiwind Affiliate:
Look, you can’t officially claim that. Unofficially, maybe some individuals exist. But the official people running things — they have no intention of pulling Maulana down. The issue is that the Raiwind Shura has a policy: anyone who abides by their policy and presents themselves in the path of Tabligh will be encouraged. Those who don’t, their actions or speeches will not be scheduled. They are not forcibly stopped — if something is not scheduled, it simply doesn’t happen.

But a hype gets created that Maulana Sahib was stopped. The senior people of Raiwind only want that Maulana Sahib does Tabligh work away from media — just like other elders do.

Interviewer:
So, they don’t want him appearing in media?

Raiwind Affiliate:
Yes, that’s a major issue — avoiding media presence.

Interviewer:
And what’s the second issue?

Raiwind Affiliate:
The second issue is political involvement. To implement these decisions, our elders had to take a strict stand. The common people doing Tabligh must go among the general public — and when they do that, people raise issues: “Tariq Jamil supports Imran Khan but not so-and-so.” People forget that Maulana Tariq Jamil Sahib has always responded to calls from all major politicians. But the public put so much pressure on the Raiwind elders that they had to take a collective decision — if Maulana doesn’t distance himself from politics and media, we cannot schedule his speeches anymore.

Interviewer:
When Maulana Sahib enters the Tablighi Centre, he comes with a whole convoy. Is he stopped there?

Raiwind Affiliate:
He is stopped because the opposite party thinks he’s coming forcefully. And they think their restrictions are being bypassed. The general public doesn’t understand all this and misinterprets it in a rush. But from the senior Tablighi leaders, there was no intention to insult Maulana Sahib or stop his convoy.

Interviewer:
They stopped him at two gates and let him in through the third?

Raiwind Affiliate:
Yes, that happened because Maulana wanted to deliver a speech, and since his speech wasn’t scheduled, they were told to handle the situation if someone tried to create a setup forcefully.

Interviewer:
We’ve heard it almost turned into a physical altercation?

Raiwind Affiliate:
There was no such thing as a physical altercation. Even in major situations, there have been thieves and attackers trying to disrupt Raiwind, but things have never gone that far. Maulana Tariq Jamil Sahib and the elders are people who would never allow anything to reach that point.

Interviewer:
So the two main issues are: Maulana Sahib’s increasing digital/media presence and political alignment?

Raiwind Affiliate:
Exactly. And I’d add a third — there are people divided into sects, and our youth have also been split. These groups use the opportunity to target Maulana Tariq Jamil Sahib. Sometimes they raise issues over his branding, sometimes over his welfare work, and now over his unscheduled speech. What we, the public, should do now is turn to Allah as Muslims, and pray that Allah protects all our scholars and preachers. Because the Ummah is going through a tough time, and we need unity — not fights among scholars.

Maulana Tariq Jamil has been critisized by many Ulema for his controversial Bayans. In order

Why was Maulana Tariq Jamil not allowed to give Bayan?

From Raiwind’s standpoint, the main reason Maulana Tariq Jamil was not allowed to give bayan was due to:

• His over exposure to the Media
• His strong political affiliation to a political party

Maulana Tariq Jamil has also been critisized by Ulema for his controversial Bayans. In order to protect the sanctity of this work, it is important for Tablighi Jamaat to not put him for large Ijtema speeches

See: Fatwa on Maulana Tariq Jamil’s Controversial Speeches