On the 23rd of August 2015, Maulana Saad cursed the Muqeems of Nizamuddin to Jahannam for not accepting him as the Ameer.
The Muqeems are elders who due to their dedication to the work of Da’wa, decided to live most of their lives in the service of the Nizamuddin Markaz. They stay in the small rooms there with many of them having been there more than 40 years.
M Saad himself is not a Muqeen, He has his own residence and goes home daily to the comfort of his wife and children.
The following dialogue took place during a Mashwara in Nizamuddin Markaz, Delhi. Some of the senior elders of Tablighi Jamaat such as Maulana Ibrahim Dewla, Prof Tsanaullah and Dr Khalid Siddiqui were present during the dialogue. Prof Tsanaullah was the key person who confronted M Saad. M Saad was in a state of anger while Dr Khalid Siddiqui tried to calm the situation down.
NOTE: Before reading further, please understand that our aim is to preserve the true history of Tabligh, no matter how bitter it is. As generations come, this history may be forgotten. We do not promote hate, and certainly not backbiting. See our article ‘Backbiting vs Warning‘. No matter how bad a Muslim is, he is still our Muslim brother. We love and hate only for the sake of Allah.
Markaz Elder: Whatever incident occurred at Bhopal (Ijtema), we came for that very purpose. Brother, this is a collective effort, which could have been resolved amongst ourselves. Then again three months later, the violence of Mewatis occurred, and even then you took no action. You could have come out and enquired as to why these Mewatis have gathered in the masjid and turned into a mob. Police came to know about this and it was in the newspapers.
Who’s image got tarnished? The work got tarnished, and the Masjid got tarnished. This place which was once (shielded from such chaos like a) fort, has now been reduced to a heap of sand!
Prof Sanaullah: Decide today whether this effort is for the people or is your own property. You keep on saying Shura here, Shura there, yet why is there no Shura here? Tell us, this is the Markaz. We need an answer. Everywhere in the World, there is a Shura. Why not here? The whole world (many people) have written to you as to why there is no Shura here. Answer this.
Maulana Saad: There is a shura.
Markaz Elder: Who is it?
Maulana Saad: Everyone is Shura here
Markaz Elder: No, this is not a Shura. These hundred people, two hundred people are not a Shura, I am not a Shura. A Shura ought to be nominated. Why isn’t this happening? If this effort is your own property, then say it’s my inheritance and if it’s the people’s effort, then let it run according to the public.
(Some commotions start)
Maulana Saad: I am the Ameer.. I am Zimmedar! (main Ameer hoon.. main zimmedar hoon)
Markaz Elder: You are not the Ameer! (tum Ameer nahin ho)
Maulana Saad: if you do not agree then don’t! (aap nahin maante na mano)
Markaz Elder: We do not agree! (hum nahin maante)
Maulana Saad: If you don’t agree .. then don’t agree! (aap agar nahin maante mat maano)
Markaz Elder: It shall be decided here today! (aaj faisla hoga yahan)
Maulana Saad: If you do not agree.. go to Jahannam (hell)!!! (nahin maante jahannum me jao)
Dr Khalid Siddidui (trying to softly calm down the situation): Do come here, do come here (aiye na, aiye na)
Maulana Saad (Speaking in anger): I am the Ameer of all!!! These are the people of Shura. You, people of the area, are my Shura. Me, I am the Zimmedar. I shall do whatever I feel like!! Nothing is happening, everything is with Aafiyat (peace) .. these people of the area are up to something!
(main sab ka ameer hoon!! ye shura ke aadmi.. tum basti wale meri shura ho.. main.. main zimmedar hoon bas.. main jo chahunga vo karunga.. kuch nahin horaha.. sab aafiyat hai..
Ye sab basti wale kar rahe..)
Maulana Saad: I am the Ameer of all of you! By (Allah), I am the Ameer of all of you! (Main tum sab ka Ameer hoon.. Khuda ki kasam main tum sab ka ameer hoon)
Jazak Allah Khair for sharing the 100 years history of the noble work of Allah Almighty. Allah knows best how true in particular the last part of the last 10 years. May Allah protect this holy efforts of App SAW and bless with sincere and competent spiritual leaders and workers, Aameen
Barakllah Fiik. InshaAllah, they are 100% authentic. Full citations and sources are provided. See our complete source of reference here. Our goal is to protect history. There’s just too many conspiracy theories out there
Dear Prof. The pain of this split could only be felt by the ones who have made at least some sacrifice to bring dheen in their lives and not by the onlookers who are highly following non muslim lifestyles with the muslim names. The work of thableegh is the light of the mankind, we cannot allow a stupid fellow with a moulana title to put-off this light. So this document is a vital witness to make us understand what really happened in nizamuddin markaz. I am from Sri Lanka and we have the right to know that.
What’s the reason for making this website? By uploading proof & making this website, will it help Dawaat and tablig? Due to this other, religion leaders will take advantage and will point out both the ulma deen so brother please shut down this website I am not that much dedicated(paaband ) in deen but esa Dawaat aur tableeeg ko fayada nai hoga
Your last point is where we differ then. I have put my entire life for this Effort since my student days. To see this effort being destroyed by misinformation really breaks my heart.
It’s so sad people want to split the Jamaat just to follow a single controversial person; when many Ulemas have issued warnings against him.
Dear Prof. The pain of this split could only be felt by the ones who have made at least some sacrifice to bring dheen in their lives and not by the onlookers who are highly following non muslim lifestyles with the muslim names. The work of thableegh is the light of the mankind, we cannot allow a stupid fellow with a moulana title to put-off this light. So this document is a vital witness to make us understand what really happened in nizamuddin markaz. I am from Sri Lanka and we have the right to know that.
Assalamulaikum,
Hats off to your effort to document and present everything in such a nice way. Though, I don’t know your intentions for doing this. I hope, wish and pray that the Tabligh ka kaam comes back to the same form how it used to be. It has benefitted my entire khandaan so much. It just shatters my heart to read all this. You presentation here clearly indicates the not-so-nice behaviour of Maulana Saad. If it is so clear and there isn’t any grey spot, I don’t understand why he still has so many followers?
Waalaykumsalam, barakallah fiik ya Akhi. We are really trying to avoid putting M Saad in a bad light. He is a Muslim. We should hate the action, not the person.
It is clear to us that he is the ‘Asbab’ of the current predicament.
However, his followers do not have a clear ‘Asbab’ as they cannot say anything bad about the Aalami Shura Elder, such as Ml Ibrahim, Haji Abd Wahab, etc. Because of this, sadly, they have made their local Aalami Shura brothers their ‘enemy’. Backbiting their close friends are ripe for them.
Yes, M Saad has a lot of followers, but they are slowly diminishing as things become more clear. For example, in 2018 it was only Deoband, but now, we have collected 30+ fatwas from various institutions worldwide. Alhamdulillah, the Ulama are making it easy for simple-minded people.
This website is for those who want to find the truth. Fyi, I myself was a follower of M Saad before, but unlike the brainwashed, I asked Allah SWT and sought the truth.
Assalam alaikum.
Your effort on the history of Jamaat tabligh is highly informative and commendable. May Allah make you firm in complying with his command, (i.e. be just in your witness even if it is against you). May I suggest that you include in your warning this verse
Sura 4 – Ayat 135
۞ يَـٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ كُونُواْ قَوَّٲمِينَ بِٱلْقِسْطِ شُهَدَآءَ لِلَّهِ وَلَوْ عَلَىٰٓ أَنفُسِكُمْ أَوِ ٱلْوَٲلِدَيْنِ وَٱلْأَقْرَبِينَۚ إِن يَكُنْ غَنِيًّا أَوْ فَقِيرًا فَٱللَّهُ أَوْلَىٰ بِهِمَاۖ فَلَا تَتَّبِعُواْ ٱلْهَوَىٰٓ أَن تَعْدِلُواْۚ وَإِن تَلْوُۥٓاْ أَوْ تُعْرِضُواْ فَإِنَّ ٱللَّهَ كَانَ بِمَا تَعْمَلُونَ خَبِيرًا
O People who Believe! Be firm in establishing justice, giving witness for Allah, even if it is harmful to yourselves or parents or relatives; whether the one you testify against is wealthy or poor, for in any case Allah has the greater right over it; then do not follow your wishes for you may stray from the truth; and if you distort testimony or turn away, then Allah is Well Aware of your deeds.
اسلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته The audio is not available pls upload jazakallah and if there are any rebukes from maulana saad sahib side would be useful to answer them jazakallah اسلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
Thanks for pointing this out. I have fixed it. Jazakallah Khair
He almost destroyed this noble Work initiated by his great grand father (M. Ilias RA) and then brought to the masses by his grand father (M. Yusuf RA). This noble Work brought so many people who did not have Islamic education (like university students, illiterates, etc) to the path of proper Islam. He almost single handedly ruined ~100 years of this noble work!
With due respect this is not Prof Sanaullah Sb. His voice is totally different.
is it? is that some other members who invaded markaz at that time?
Assalamu alaikum ji..
I cant understand one thing that there is shura jamath of some members after moulana inamul hasan(r.a) including moulana Saad shab (d.b) so after some years rolled on after moulana inamul hasan shab (r.a) period by allah’s will the members in that shuras are died (rahimahullah anhum) then that is only moulana Saad shab (d.b) and moulana zubair shab (r.a) who is left in the old shura decided by our akabirs so after the death of moulana zubair shab (r.a) then the imarath came to saad shab.. so he decided as an ameer to not make shura anymore… so why are you guys criticizing him? he has the choice of becoming the ameer.. !
Waalaikumsalam,
Have a look at the 1995 Shura agreement. You can counter it here. We don’t delete comments.
Aisa karke aapko kya lgta hai ,
Ke aap Moulana Saad sb ki image ko kharab kar denge
Or shura walon ki image ko accha kar denge
To Jaan lijye izzat or zillat Allah ke haath me hain
Allah jisko izzat dene par aa jaaye usey koi zaleel nhi kar sakta
Itni geebat or galat information jo logon ko aap de rahe ho
Allah se daro , hisab dena padh jayega Qayamat
Kisi ke bhi khilaf ye karna bahut sakht gunah hai
Tauba kar lo or usey delete kar do
Warna Bina tauba kiye mar gaye to anjaam bahut bura ho sakta hai
[Translataion]
By doing this, what do you think?
Do you believe you will tarnish Maulana Saad Sahab’s image
and improve the image of the Shura members?
Know that honour and disgrace are in the hands of Allah.
When Allah decides to grant someone honour, no one can disgrace them.
The amount of backbiting and false information you are spreading among people—
Fear Allah, for you will have to account for it on the Day of Judgment.
Speaking against anyone in this way is a grave sin.
Repent and delete it.
Otherwise, if you die without repentance, the consequences could be severe.
Deen is not based on emotions. There is a limit to following a person, the moment a pperson goes against the laws of Sharia and widely propagating it, we should be ready to take him accountable even if he is our own family member.
I am nobody, there are bigget people that are warning others against blind love of Maulana Saad. See:
– Collection of elders statements on Maulana Saad(Including Haji Sahab and Maulana Yunus Jaunpuri)
– 60+ Fatawas on Maulana Saad
Ask yourself. Are they all back biting?
(In Islam we are allowed to warn people, like how the Ulema in the past warn others of false Hadith narrators, deviant Imams, etc)